UPDated: Jan 2025,see bottom

nb: ask yourself: who would be the worst person to be stuck with in an elevator… [P2, i give most people 5 minutes ..]

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Original was a shopping question from ic-racer (IC likely meaning internal combustion. he races models)

…. see this for deeper sidebar on DW

Q: >> fujinon CM/W 450mm f8 Looking to use it on 8x10 for 20x24" enlargements in B&W. I have the W 300mm and W 150, and in spite of the size and weight of the 300, it is my favorite 8x10 lens, The 450 is not that much heavier.
R: >> I have the 450mm f/8 CM Fujinon W, 450mm f/12.5 Fujinon C and 420mm Fujinon L. The 450 C is, in my experience, greatly overrated for 8x10 use [Sal Santamaura ]
an hour later: Oh my gosh, Ice Racer, [ sic] [then the boasting begins, accompanied with denigration of Santamaura] 
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the thread decays.

Santamaura answered based upon his equipment experience and skills; even attempting to show an image example. Wiley answered with claims of prints he has never shown.

Much of the board revolves around lenses, and shopping for them. The site philosophy isn’t intended to be a buy-sell forum, yet that is the major support structure. Buyer confidence. Examples of what to buy. What the picture will look like.

However, these things usually devolve into self sustaining justification for prior choices. After all, if they chose wrong, what else did they do in error. The tensions over time build into factual as well as conceptual errors — blindness.

• frank beryman v wiley
• koraks v wiley
• randy moe v wiley
• jnantz v wiley
• pere casals v wiley
• pieter[12] v wiley
• & at least another dozen on photrio

what wiley brings == his braggadocio and conflict

they take pictures
of the same thing

only distinguishing thing is how they take them.. why equip is so important:
to distinguish value or importance. dominance by craft marking

Santamaura is fond of emoticons. Easy vocabulary. Afraid of the word, and the world of the word.

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Jan 2025, upd: Drew Wiley. Wiley Photo

An anchor, so there is a single place to point you to; a focus target.

He was born in 1949 or 1950 according to his mothballed website. His birth year changed over time. Don’t know why. His main presence in photography is on the internet forums. Large Format and Photrio (nee Apug) He is an expert in opinion. He also knows many people, even drops their names even though they don’t know him. He is married to a nurse specialist in sleep apnea.

Thank you for your interest in Drew H. Wiley Photography. Your visit has been appreciated. 
For questions, comments, and to acquire Drew’s outstanding work, please call or send an e-mail to: drewwileyphoto  960 ventura st Richmond, CA 94805 Phone: +1.5102361472

He worked as an order clerk (1977- 2016) at Truitt and White, a window and door store in Berkeley. His website was up 2004-2014, renewed thru 2023&

Dye Transfer

Craft claim as the center pole of your circus act.

Bunk and debunk.

Mr. W makes many claims, drops many nameless names. This is one verification effort.

He tells the forumatti to check his website, which is no longer hosted, to learn about his show with Ansel Adams. He doesn’t supply specifics; no date, no location, no curator. Most people don’t continue the deception for decades and across several conversations.

It was sponsored by a major museum curator to coincide as soon as possible after the death of AA, … It was the largest single set of his big mural prints ever assembled up to that point, … It never traveled past this urban area because the collection was deemed too valuable for the risk per insurance mandate. I was essentially 50% of that, …ì<dw

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A decade later my big Cibachrome prints were chosen for display beside the largest collection of his classic black-and-white murals assembled up to that time. The cumulative effect achieved by alternating our respective pictures was quite interesting. î by< dw>

I presented the above quotes to several curators: Do you have any idea where this show was? circa March 1985, SF Bay.

Have you any record of Drew Wiley? was my question.

no one knew of DW, or the show: typical responses:

“Drew Wiley is not a name I’m familiar with, and I’m sorry to say I have no information to share about the AA murals.

I was living in the Bay Area in 1985 and worked for the SF Arts Commission for ten years, but I never heard about this exhibition, nor a civic collection of AA murals.”

AND “I searched the Ansel Adams and Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust collections. There are a few posthumous exhibitions in 1985 but nothing I found included Drew Wiley.”

Places checked (but not found)

• San Francisco Museum of Modern Art (SFMOMA),
• the de Young Museum,
• the Palace of the Legion of Honor,
• the Asian Art Museum of San Francisco
• San Jose Museum of Art,
• the University of California’s Berkeley Art Museum, Bancroft library
• Stanford University’s Cantor Art Center.
• the Oakland Museum of California,
• SF Chronicle & SF Examiner archives

Also claimed are close association with printmakers, yachting billionaires. Magnolia Editions (Farnsworth).

The method:

A glimmer of truth; such a glimmer as can be gleaned reading press releases, or local east-bay papers.

The lie is revealed in the same general number level: $40K dollars seems to be a large, inspiring number to use.