Gursky Gossip

Large Format Chatter Clutter

The most frequent question on the net: How did X get? In photoland, this is phrased: What camera does X use?

Weekenders spend their days discussing tech, buying choice, details of use for years. It is how the fora survive; as support for limited exchanges, or, exchange reduced to limited topics. Contrary to their assumptions, these exercises reduce their development; retarding, reducing them to talking about the sales brochure with the counter cleaner.

they don’t read much theory. why would they? they know all they need. I wouldn’t read theoretical concrete or waste removal. I know all I use, already.

Not to forget the main focus of this thread, I’m afraid Gursky doesn’t work for me at all – just nothing there with any resonance for me. I do understand how the elaborate production serves his purposes, so more power to him.

LFPF Mod’s input to request for “Camera & Gursky”

Gursky doesn’t talk about process. Resists answering questions about how he works, all the while, willingly talking for hours about what the imagery means; where it comes from; thoughts, and impressions he gains from other artists.

Meanwhile, the forum is filled with conversation about film, developer, aperture; going so far as clarifying if it is the lens with the ‘inside or outside lettering.’ This is the fine detail of fine art.

No it isn’t! It is merely more bad reasoning about how photography becomes meaningful. These are detours for the lost. A cynic would say that these sites are sand traps meant to keep the avid away from the accomplished.

The buy/sell sections are filled with opportunity to buy the scrap of your forum friendly guides.

 at 13 you read teen and seventeen, learning about girl and self.
at 31 what would you get by being a 17 aspirant’
what would you think of a 31 year old man reading boys life? 

to realize enlightenment, you must enlighten someone

Snobby Hobby:

an overdue post of collected post its.

not as much underachievers but achievers of mediocrity
Like the lazy beagle, they buy the T-shirt , listen to the story and say they did it.
repressive life, life deferred in the interest of easy meaning
now, even their gurus are park guides providing parking tips; where the best place to park is. parking lots with the best view
weeds. what everyone else does
they follow brands.. names.processes…
they will be insulted by this post, yet think it isn’t them. Let me specify: do you get your information, training, share consensus with the online forums: Large Format, Photrio, Luminous Landscape, Petapixel… then you are them. FOMO is your real brand even though you assert loyalty to Foma.
Source of their wonderment. Origins: they gather around first topics, the how, and with what. They’re readers of standardized magazines whose basis is advertising and trade show sponsors
dabbler, artist with more money than skill
weekend wanderers
counter pros
popphos
// casual vs. causal
questions raised are elementary rather than elemental.
workshopers
// hostile tribes trapped around a shrinking pond
// think that buying supplies is doing art. the best artist has the biggest supply cabinet
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tripods. triploders. tripodists
more fear than ambition. took up the camera because they were afraid of drawing
// the venal. vernacular
picture space. source/reference space. other than counter space where weekenders pick and choose as they are picked over.
// the audience, the buyer, the pitch. who are their colleagues. what assumptions of value are brought.
// outlet. nature of challenge. expectation of self
the spare time artists
offended by the full time show offs
the wanderers hike, and bike with cameras, clubbing through recreation for mantel memory
journique, phonique
names like sun. shadow. astral things. striving for captioning in a monochromatic world
on the tree of images. dead branches.
// people who have spent decades building their fantasy life are quick to defend their choice, even violently. Their way has to be the way.
perfection is not in danger

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remain close to its birth as tool for unskilled, idle wealth
those of temperament but lacking hand, time, observation.

until — used by artists as aid to /. connection with an automatic mechanical aesthetic, removed from a person. abstracting…

 until ,,, taken up by those blending its position, use, perception of it as thing

until,,, artists use it automatically. photographers become institutions 


the conversants change the conversation. anyone coming in enters through their easy access panel. art school forces the growth, but first gathers those who can reach their door handle.. probably not the easy bake gangplank of 1890 and failed draftsmen
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the paper has no magic property

things with magic properties go away, since the hobby, casual, weekend wannabe has no need of magic. they’re copying some classic.

drawing from pools you don’t like: arters and the instagrammrs..
anti-intellectual as well as being anti-amateur

yet your provincialism is tripods on the weekend / paper in 25 sheet packs
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Outliers just trying to out lie each other
 may be spelled correctly, just not honestly

aficionados

ever wonder why their heroes are unsuccessful second careers
people who aren’t fully occupied by their project management SEO paint dealership
people who have left a technical field come to this end of the pool expecting greater weekend meaning..

snobby hobby