Why he remains: you let him, even like him. Ignore him, or boot him off your forum. He marks you each and everyone as foolish.
you could, but wont
because you are him, even though you don't like him -- those parts of you that failed early
- the corrans, salsas, tin cants, oh gees, each hoping to make a recovery.
forumatti
forms of failure
-- the fear of failing
-- fear of being wrong, of error
-- the fear of being forgotten
-- the fear of having wasted
-- fear of missing out
and, being lonely. their real world surround doesn't nourish them
and as aloof, as snobby as they are, they cannot stand alone, or in isolation...
these form the basis of their limited imagery. an empty plinth, the small coffee mug industry
People go on the grand tour of a drive around frantically for two weeks photographing everything and then have it printed up as a coffee mugs and wheel covers for their RV
Photo forums are like listening to seventh graders talk about their sex weekends.
of the worst — they became aware as 10 year olds watching/listening to Jackass pranks — they grow up to become YT content producers as tho they were 50 year olds pretending they were 25 impressing 15year old self.
wiley; summary — more words isn’t more meaning. Meander makes goole hits. adds to the debris field … He makes tedious decor as he detours you into.. wait, he doesn’t detour most of his readers; they are making the same pictues for much the same reason.
At some point even the cheerleaders become annoying
Give a Lik
the Carmel Cowboy commentary about Simic and FBI — bad memory and he makes you wrong.
A wide, shallow mis-reader of throw away press as well as posts too long. He wants to talk, which is why he can’t listen
he picks up info from local fish-wraps like the Pine Cone and East Bay Shopper. Those are the places I find his tales originated.
Carmel Cowboys riding herd over what you do, like mall cops with bad hearing.
What can be verified?
How much of this happened; what is imagined for the purpose of power over the unknowing.
Isn’t that what the ladies in short-skirts he loves to poke at are doing.
Direct for power.
What can be verified? — Goog gives us: the Simic gallery, as well as the painter of the French street scenes. Easy to mistake, since Photrio Wiley sees so many seascapes in Carmel.
“Paul Minicucci, chief consultant to the California legislature’s Joint Committee on the Arts, said that art buying is generally considered a victimless crime. ”How far can government go,” he asked, ”in issues that involve the aesthetic capability of the public?’’” 7/7/1988 NYT
“Privately, other gallery owners have said the resentment by smaller galleries is largely a matter of sour grapes. The big galleries are successful, they say, and the smaller galleries less so. “Growth and progress is not an indication of dishonesty,” one said.
Should the paint-off in France not pass the FBI’s muster, the Carmel dispute could blow into a genuine scandal. Rescheduled several times, the test is supposed to take place within two weeks. Meanwhile, Simic continues to offer Valere paintings for sale, and Valere’s agent predicted that the test will produce vindication.” 1988, La Times
In 1988, a scandal… that was dropped.
“Only one Carmel gallery has been investigated in recent years for fraud–Simic Galleries, the subject of a 1988 federal investigation following FBI suspicion that paintings allegedly done by one Paul Valere were in fact produced by several artists. The case was dropped after the gallery produced the elderly Mr. Valere in France, and he was able to paint a reasonable “Valere” under the watchful eye of a visiting FBI agent. The gallery was cleared of wrong-doing, although Valere”s dealer eventually pleaded guilty to fraud, says Monterey attorney Philip Daunt, who represented Simic in the case. “There were some discrepancies in the biography [the dealer] gave Simic,” Daunt says. But the sting remained. “ 1999, montereycoutnyweekly
What else are we cautioned to avoid… New York City Consumer protection is the alluded Wiley fear. It deals with reproductions, editions and clearly writing a provenance. I leave it as an exercise for you to check on the successful prosecutions.
his memory is based upon wide mis-readings…. which serve as evidence that his misconceptions are reality. He trys to impose on you the criteria he has used. The map he failed by. This path to your kiddie pool, where he preens as a supreme swimmer. It doesn’t matter, since he is selling stories based upon his years bent over the desk in the back-office of a soft wood, door store.
Under the ACAL, “Multiples” means “prints, photographs, positive or negative, sculpture and similar art objects produced in more than one copy and sold, offered for sale or consigned in, into or from this state for an amount in excess of one hundred dollars ($100) exclusive of any frame….” Id. at § 11.01(21).
In wileyland, only the name-droppers survive. Mastery of humble-brag and the signal put-down. They, maybe you, have years of shopping experience, only hours of use.
The danger: following dead-ends until you end where he has.
Pathological lying or lying compulsively can also be a symptom of antisocial personality disorder or narcissistic disorder. People with these personality disorders may lie to gain sympathy or social status, or to preserve a false sense of self.Nov 14, 2022
He tells campfire tales and plays liars dice. Without credentials or credibility, he holds high post counts on two forums ..
His Prints Viewed:
He couldn’t show cibachromes because they were too big and mounted, or sold. Dye transfers were a conversation, not actual. I offered to come to his studio Gallery and he declined, saying it was undergoing construction. It seems that it is always undergoing construction. He fears neighbors (you) stealing his camera equipment, even though his “loud, abusive” blue-collar neighbors might find his fully, expensively stocked wood, metal shop more useable.
his first print shown was his take on Golden Gate Bridge, a print in with the lower right hand corner being over dodged, or just simply enlarger fall off..
>>The print I spent the most time with was more than halfway through the box. It was a print, which he declared as a high example of ektars yellow. California golden.. but since you’re not from around here.. him continuing his assumption that I was, I had never been to California. He failed the first point of interaction: he didn’t know me,; rather than finding out , he assumed my ignorance, proceeding to treat the conversation as his tutoring a poorly informed buyer about the best solution to an unasked problem.
That print, I held at different angles, gave it the full freshmen review. The spotting was obvious; he had failed to blend the surface reflection differential between retouch and print.
>> neither of the two prints I am describing would have made it out of any of the custom labs I worked with. They wouldn’t have passed quality check let alone make it into a presentation folio.
His Online Mode
The structure:
begin with a claim of alliance with someone, or thing expensive or complicated
expand that first claim; perhaps using something readers already have said or may believe
introduce yourself as someone with knowledge the original Kahuna hasn’t; they want it
finish with another, perhaps much stronger assertion.
If you are better than the Best, you must be of value within this small online world. Why aren’t they listening to you; making you their leader?
he claims he bested the million dollar labs with their “highly experienced” ees.
He did this, apparently using the loop-hole that big labs couldn’t take the time to make money. Absurd. In the real-world labs would have charged for the involved work, no matter how much more time it took.
how much of his comment is true– was it meant to be?
his main image goal is sharp detail... afterthoughts are size, and color, but based upon ? naive perception of possibles. he limits his subjects...taking the well worn mannerisms. accuracy, veracity. consistency of retellings. the truth can be sharp, the lie is always fuzzy
—--------------------------- HE REINFORCES YOUR PRIOR BELIEF.. he agrees with granders story can’t bring back the giant dragon fly — paul bunyon the Drewbees, they keep feeding him. wooley weasel words
Why the claim to the unknown, the name-drop, the value assertions? And, how do they work so long among so many?
Claim to X because deep durable knowledge of X is gone. Perception of expertise goes across entirety of community. Why D.Wiley creates fiction of Eliot Porter’s machine shop skill — must be used to make dye transfers. What Eliot had was math / chemistry skill. He wasn't a machinist during the war; he was a clerk, a scheduler. His darkroom, and office showed his wood-shop skills. Desk. Enlarger stand. [https://webionaire.com/2021/07/17/eliot-porter-wars/ ] [ his dye "knowledge" contributed to the demise of the attempted revival of the dye transfer group. Noise destroys legitimate effort.
his story is told in oppositions. he modifies the tale, besting the best, based upon success in an alternate forum the legend changes to make him bigger than you. '' my father'' extends to everyone around him.
you know it’s drewly Why Lie. We Lie PHoto he wants you to like him. he wants to control you; think him the expert; believe he has the answer. He craves being the head of the table. But, like all bullies, he only has fun by diminishing you. --thats where amateurs go to impress other amateurs --types: need to control, to belong, prove worth through mastery early, limited success , derive meaning of life not found in real life.
////////==== WORDS from Wileyworld WILEY \2011 I only use true distilled for final film rinse or really fussy development, like matched color separation negs Gosh, I disagree with you// Gosh. I've got my //Oh gosh, there was a// Not all pan films are identical with respect to realistic filter factors not panchromatic per se // for a true deep green filter //hypothetically for in-camera RGB color
for sake of a little experimentation/ once you get serious/ [ time: he says has to go; appears on other forum, not printing, ] Like I hinted, can't remember their name // was a high-end photo gallery in a prime high-lease true architectural quality. with serious camera gear in diapers and shooting 35mm to have hypothetically true high gloss media like if just a short distance application and am all too aware of We catered to the serious types, and sold the better grades for sake of images deserving bigger enlargements
for a true Micro setup Another serious LF color film processing lab
an expensive expedition-grade I bought from an excellent company color images awaiting me doing some sheet cutting from my big roll of Fujiflex I'm seriously skeptical how tried to extenuate advocate those boring
Gosh. ... I hope some of you never try to make plywood I'd hardly call it a "beast". "Verstatile" and "convenient" are way more appropriate terms You'd just need to think twice if you want to graduate into
My still bigger Durst L184 color enlarger and huge custom 8X10 additive color enlarger are in a different room, necessarily with a much higher ceiling. So I'm quite familiar with adaptations of Durst heads and columns. its quickie tract homes and ubiquitous code violations picking on my own Sate, here in CA It was spoken in the context of
seems to specialize in Duratrans and true Dye Tranfer printing
Nice looking. That's the problem. I has "steal me" written all over it. .. do cost quite a bit more for decent quality. I bought mid-level LED panels for my own use - about $700 for the pair. Last edited: Apr 6, 2023
U kno itz drew: as absurd as it seems. as useless as it seems. when it is a brag about shoelaces and meanings, then it mus be drew. Or his influence… as people compete for limited attention, they take on the characteristic, eventually the character of those around them
drew’s influence is deeper than I thought. The need to stake a claim to knowledge because of a relative. Is it true, this assertion brought forth as evidence in an empty case. I don’t know. I have doubt, considering it an overstatement given the circumstance and circle of its expression. Since Drew is tolerated, even congratulated by these people, they lose credibility.
You are associated with those you associate with.
if it sounds like a Drew.. even though it isn’t. Not this time.
wileys cibas
on again; here, there.
he sold them, then he is srrounded by them… to prove two distinct things, his situation, the reality of his need changes the material decorating his fiction.
prove his value: they are gone
prove his lens: they are now on his walls
like shoes, changed for positioning in argument.
his stance is defensive, turning offensive. a cat caller. poser of ‘gosh’ ness
an insulting 2nd voice.
like the revolutionary behind blinds
he imagines his role was significant, important, perhaps vital, at least as one provding cautionary guidance. His chair was as an order taker. He sat in a back-office answering phones.
this gave him his position to talk about the arc of photography. Woodburytype: not possible because of OSHA. He knew an OSHA inspector who died. Chemistry Hazards: his wife’s instructor died. Allergies to RA chemicals: almost everyone he knows, mainly his own.
He can’t allow you into his real world. Too dangerous; you would find out that his house, which is painted using the best of skills and materials, always needs repainting. Or, that his redwood fence, isn’t. He had to visit Vaughn at Yosemite since he had to best Vaughn’s redwood gate. Drew forgets his forgeries, others may not. Then, oh gosh, Drew recalls his recounting.
his empty placeholder.
Preamble to the meeting:
But when it comes to weeds, well, we true hillbillies might have cultivated that particular aesthetic a bit better, even in C prints… Doubt many other people would even wish to crawl thru them with an 8×10 … DW 16-Jul-2014
drew on apug:
Talk comes cheap. Ever head that old saying? Now go build something that really works, and you might discover that some of you guys don't even recognize more than 5% of the questions you need to ask before presuming to provide the solution. But basically, what is your motive?
Save money? You're sure not going to do that. Get a nice flat panel instead of a big box-like colorhead? Not so fast. You still have to diffuse' the thing. Additive printing takes a LOT of light. If you want a panel, you'll need a whole bank of them. LED's are not continuous spectrum,
so you'd have to trim filter ever damn one of the things. Do you realize green printing lasers are not primarily green, but are strongly filtered to allow only a very narrow band of green to pass. Similarly, once you trim a near-miss LED, it might have just a fraction of its original output. Now if you just want a challenge, or a fun project, I'm rooting for you the whole way. But based upon a few of the previous
posts, you don't even understand the difference between correcting additive versus subtractive light. I've been printing additive for over twenty five years. Yeah, you might get lucky and land on something that will print this or that film/paper combination so-so; but will it be good for anything else? Different film/paper combinations behave very differently. My additive heads have been used for direct positive Cibachromes, for RA4 prints from all kinds of different negs, for very critical dupes, even for fussy color separation negs for dye transfer printing or things like that - with almost ideal performance in every case, and far less work in calibration than an ordinary CMY subtractive source. The penalty? An engineering headache.
I'm not a commercial lab. I don't do other people's negs, just my own. And I'm allergic to RA4, so I only do limited numbers during mild weather when I can roll my
big drum processor outdoors. Half this game is learning how to shoot a neg or chrome to exactly match the suite of printing skills or equip you've mastered yourself. If you need a hired gun who works with other people's negs, talk to somebody like Bob Carnie. Otherwise, if you just want to see portfolios of completed prints, that's an entirely different subject. My studio is torn up at the moment (distinct from the lab, which does not have a display area), so it would have to be at some prearranged location.
17-Jul-2014, 13:47
AND.
Premature with DT. I'm only a wannabee in that dept. Have put together supplies and made some custom equip, and have remastered things like separation negs
pure darkroom using currently avail films, but otherwise am still learning the chords. Got plenty of Ciba work on hand except for big ones - almost all sold off some
time back, except for a couple I kept for our own house. Most of the C prints on hand are unmounted, since I only mount and frame those on demand (unlike drymounted b&w work), but they can still be viewed loose of course. If you just want to see a random portfolio of something portable like 20x24's for example, that's not too difficult, just so you get a feel for the different media. Most people, for example, haven't seen just how well color negs print onto Fuji Supergloss fully analog, from an enlarger.
When & How:
I will be at the St. Regis at 5PM.
The hotel concierge will be told to direct those looking for Marfa, to me.
I will have a dark cloth bag with the word "Marfa" in white.
Ill be seated in the lobby. Will try for window area.
Where &:
St Regis San Francisco
125 Third Street
San Francisco, California 94103
parking:
-- valet parking at the St Regis
-- Jessie Square Garage, located at 223 Stevenson Street at 3rd Street (.2 mile // 3 min walk)
or Hearst Parking Center, 45 3rd Street at Stevenson Street. (about 500 feet // 2 min walk)
http://parking.hearstbuildingsf.com
http://en.parkopedia.com/parking/underground/jessie_square/94103/san_francisco/
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just a few prints is fine; make it easy on yourself. small prints make it easy; they can be looked at without need of tables and such. Not much interested in "comparison prints."
Too bad that you haven't actually made any Dyes. You talk so often about them I assumed you may have been further along than you are.
tal uf
his posts clog the forums… a thread ender not a thread starter. it seems, often, too often, that he is talking to himself
Why He Doesn’t Show on the Internet(anymore)
They aren’t worth seeing; neither technically nor visually; neither craft nor concept make-up for the extreme conceit he exhibits online. Should you want to see what He thinks he is doing, see: Marty Knapp … Mr. Knapp has a tiny gallery that you can enter… his work is as well made as anything D. Wiley showed. The imagery is standardized to the point of shuffling a stack of plates in the dishrack of a IHOP.
How Now Brown Cow:
His OWN phrase. The word “own” enlarges over time; thru repetition an attempted reclamation of importance, an instance: ” wax to their own whiskers, and shoot my own version,”
Read that phrase without the “OWN” — what does “own” add? I was prompted by the extensive use of “own” reading about his “own” brother. And wondered what he meant with the added word. Isn’t ‘my brother’ clear enough? Anyway, his presence among the forum has impacted the ESL members, they are adding “own” to their relationships.
WAGism: “Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, your own truth”
[uses qualify speech as demonstration of his superior craft-skill: ‘Big’ 30×40 prints — not merely 30×40, but BIG 30x40s.
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