Hob Snobbin Large Format Style

Denny’s house of quits, bungles, booze — grand slams. An exploration in quits and stays.

So long. Been less than great.

The thread includes appearances from the main character types on the grand slam Large Format Forum. The main actor, the prompt for yet another caution post is the man who can’t afford photoshop cause his company doesn’t pay for internet.

Drowning my sorrows. 

snobby hobby

The cobbler bench of the dread thread.

Only one person said goodbye; took no offense. The others piled on like locker jocks at junior high. Of course the moderator proclaimed his effete status. Top of the heap of the snobby hobby — holding his glass atop the fat leg. Gotta love the selfie-ness of his life. Just another privileged consumer who should be exercising their legs instead of their privilege; their ego existence.

The burst responders provided:

Apparently not here, since I reported the OP two minutes after it went up with the suggestion that his whining “grand exit” post be deleted. Since Oren let it stand, I suppose he decided there’s more value in emphasizing the rules than hiding violations of them.  

by Sal Santamaura

A person who needs definitions is also one dependent upon rules — verified, enforced. If you, the owner’s agent won’t do it, it falls to me the wandering poster.

Who remains?

The end game is a swap shop at the end of the hobby. It is run by Moodle managers, redundant Government contractors, engineers that became ‘special project’ managers. These are the gatekeepers.

what remains. who

the ash. the residue. is inactive. but the key of the  gathering. the structure revealed by stress.

skeleton begins with the first bone

when he quit, they were angry. Why? He said he didn’t fit; that statement brought out the gang in them — Why become angry because someone chooses to leave you. Are you that lonely; fearful that you are losing air; power; influence?

10 years ago, when someone left, some of the group reached out. A decade later and the swap meet kicks over the sale sign and shouts at the poster. Then, they return to their congratulations about the exclusive knowledge, craft commitment and pride of honor for carrying the Great Analog Tradition. Art for the Weekend. Art on Vacation. Triumph in Retirement.

Another Getting Stuff

The camera center’s supply cabinet is the junk table of the internet. Finding good stuff among all the bad stuff means sifting, seemingly randomly, through what is presented. Naturally, the novice seeks answers from presumed experts – the foruatti. What makes them an expert? Their say-so.

What they say they know, and what they show they know are the significant elements of your risk.

Seeing in Colors

Because they don’t know what they’re talking about, they don’t see what they’re looking at.

A topic search about ‘tricolor’ turned up a discussion on a large forum. One of the posters remarked that they’d seen something interesting on ebay. They, nicely, posted a link which I followed. One of the high post pontificators pointed out that: “it is broken. Can’t work. I know because.” He didn’t know, but he deflected people. I suppose that he would rather be heard than to say something useful, or meaningful.

It doesn’t always work out. In this case it did. The box of goodies had come from a shop that did direct separations. The extras thrown in (because the seller wanted them gone) included filters, inspector guides, things from a working pre-press shop. Most of the things that anyone interested in making direct seps would need. Did the large forum braggart even look at the link? Did he even think?

In the picture on the left [‘two size tabs], we see what seems a typical 4×5 film holder. Except, when looking at it edge on, there is a ‘green’ edge, as well as a ‘silver’ back (instead of another slide). The other set of pictures show the elements of this ‘Green’ separation holder. The back slide discloses a platen, pressure-plate that holds the film toward, and against the separation filter (this one is green). You can also notice the notches for coding the separation negative. Those two ‘v’ cutouts would make 2 dark edge marks onto the film. After developing, you would see these on the edge of the film and know which separation this sheet was. Each color has a different notch code.

Direct seps are made with: 25, 58, 47 filters. These are inclusive enough to capture most of the colors of an outdoor scene. They’re available new from several manufacturers. 2020 prices range from $17 each, to $180 each. If you are still forming ideas, and gaining skills, go for the Lee’s (the lower price filters.)

Terms – refs

Direct separation; camera-separation; in-camera sep; tricolor — these are the same thing. None of them require us use RGB. Most of the examples you see will be those. If you are making dye transfer prints, these are assumed in the directions and example literature. BUT. they are not required. Any filter ‘separates’ — it is up to you to determine if there is meaning for you.

For further, very old, but worthwhile see this: 1916 Manual

Websites go offline – books are always offline. The book I’d suggest you reference is Spencer’s “Color Photography in Practice” [use “colour” to find more copies. ~ $4]

This is just a pencil, not a paint by number set.

If you do more, I’ll write more.