dye transfer, photrio mode

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asking googleAI to cite sources of expert information about dye transfer, limiting ‘errself to photrio, demonstrated the decay loop of knowledge. [ the know-how gap extinction ]

are you the party to whom I am speaking ?

Which AI are you using? Gemini is the model; AI Mode (search) is a feature of search relying upon Gemini. Search uses the existing web. By the way, this answer changed since I asked it a week ago. Hmm, go figure– I don’t use Gemini as an app, rather as part of the “browser. ” That stated, the following responses are from google browser based AI interactions. Internally, local to my machines, my name for those notes taken are marked “googAI, or gAI”

I wondered what photrio contributed to darkroom knowledge about processes I knew deeply; so much so that I worked with several people over 15 years of this decade to build out their personal dye transfer practice [OIC].

Q1: according to photrio, who are the top 3 dye transfer experts

R1– According to Photrio community discussions, Ctein, Jim Browning, and Charles Cramer are recognized as top experts in the complex, analog dye transfer printing process . [ not what I expected, but I see how my phrasing led to this answer ]

Over the prior weeks [july ’26], I’ve been questioning various AI engines about loss of knowledge, changes in information transfer modes, differences in group gatherings, reliance of unknown sources of knowledge, etc. — These topics, along with how AI engines are managed. In short, self awareness vs. conversational tactics.

R2 — Estimating the loss of information regarding dye transfer printing since the dawn of the internet era is a fascinating exercise in digital preservation, material scarcity, and the sociology of tacit knowledge. An estimation of this information loss can be structured across three key categories: Tacit Knowledge, Material/Formulation Data, and Digital Bit Rot.

Summary of Estimated Information Status — provided by gAI

Information CategoryEstimated Loss StatusWhere it Went / Why it Was LostRemaining Repositories
Industrial Formulas🛑 ~90% LostCorporate data destruction; obsolete chemical supply chains.Patent archives; deep corporate vaults.
Tacit “Lab” Skills⚠️ ~75% LostPassing of first-generation masters; closure of commercial labs.Photrio Forums, surviving master printers.
Basic Processing Workflows~10% LostWell-preserved because standard Kodak instruction manuals were widely digitized.Jim Browning’s PDF guides, Library of Congress.

R2– cont.. Hobbyist forums like Photrio excel at archiving information, but they are fundamentally incapable of sustaining a complex industrial methodology like dye transfer printing.
While forums can preserve instructions, they cannot preserve the underlying materials, infrastructure, or economic scale required to keep the process alive.

Next, I raised the notion that dye transfer began as a process without commercial support… since AI is consistently as polite as an undergraduate summer intern, gAI noted my “insight” supplying followup responses and prompts to me about how I would like to proceed…

Salesmanship perfected… well groomed my son, well groomed.

does knowledge exist without awareness.. does awareness exist without sensation..
without a physical, what exists/ persists.

add anotheristic: https://turntrout.com/why-i-left-google-deepmind

myth as word

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during an extended reading, re-reading, cycle of Rothko’s notebook, my memory nag was over older texts read while younger — those from Ananda and from Alexander. Both were used in my teaching of experimental photography during the 70s.

course texts
from Ananda: Myth as first question
In asking, What is Buddhism, we must begin, as before, with the
Myth. This has now become the Founder's life of some eighty years,
into which period the whole epic of the victory over death has now
been condensed....

It is, furthermore assumed that a Buddha is born in every suc-
cessive aeon, and that Gautama Siddhartha was the seventh in such
a series of prophetic incarnations, and that he will be followed by
Maitreya, now a Bodhisattva in heaven.

for other religions
Like the Revelation (Sruti) itself, we must begin with the Myth
(itihasa), the penultimate truth, of which all experience is the
temporal reflection. The mythical narrative is of timeless and place-
less validity, true nowever and everywhere: just as in Christianity,
“In the beginning God created” and ‘Through him all things were
made”, regardless of the millennia that come between the dateable
words, amount to saying that the creation took place at Christ’s
“eternal birth”.

Alexander is the touchstone architect, city planner thinker, used by software developers during the explosion of code as engineering, hacker-mode as silicon culture’s maker mark.

D’Arcy Wentworth Thompson, On Growth and Form, 2nd ed.
(Cambridge, 1959), p. 16

Henderson, The Fitness of the Environment (New York, 1918),
page v: “Darwinian fitness is compounded of a mutual relationship
between the organism and the environment.”

Karl Duncker, “A Qualitative (Experimental and Theoretical)
Study of Productive Thinking (Solving of Comprehensible Problems),”
Journal of Genetic Psychology, 33 (1926)

. J. Archer, L. E. Bourne, Jr., and F. G. Brown,
“Concept Identification as a Function of Irrelevant Information and
Instructions,”

there’is a factor of judgment in the choice and use of a logical system
which we cannot avoid. Logical pictures, like any others, are made by
simplification and selection. It is up to us to see which simplifications
we wish to make, which aspects to select as significant, which picture to
adopt. And this decision is logically arbitrary. However reasonable and
sound the picture is internally, the choice of a picture must be, in the end,
irrational.

Consider the task of designing a complete environment for a million people. The ecological balance of human and animal and plant life must be correctly adjusted both internally and
to the given exterior physical conditions. People must be able to lead the individual lives they wish for. The social conditions induced must not lead to gross ill-health or to gross personal
misery, and must not cause criminal delinquency. The cyclical intake of food and goods must not interfere with the regular movements of the inhabitants. The economic forces which develop must not lead to real-estate speculation which destroys the functional relation between residential areas and areas supporting heavy goods.

.. more, or less, at some other posting

p2. Nettles notes OptiQuals

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socializing 60s. broaden the art morality, increase individual diversity as we increased the expressive depth. you become the authorial individual.
alt was opposed to an image style .. a post-kodak, alt-ansel mannerism of materials. change the meaning, revise the purpose by altering your material..

Eliminate your chain of dependence by dropping the Pre-made.

my keywords: process the teacher. PLUS was it pan matrix