Dye Transfer Once Was

2001: Dye Transfer has become a lost process. Something talked about, mostly by those who never made one.

>> Apr 19, 2001 –Anyone out there interested in a Durst 8×10 with all the extra’s for Dye Transfer? Carriers, Condit stuff, vacuum easel, 403 color head and more.
>> Jan 16, 2002 All my stuff has been sitting … anyone want anything? Rollers, granite tables, trays ???
2 rolls 10 feet by 40 inch Kodak F paper. about 100 sheets Surface F 20×24
about 18 gallons Cyan, Magenta, Yellow dyes.
All for free, just make it easy for me to ship. I’d like to able to drop at
Mail Boxes Etc. and have you pay for shipping.

Then, there are those that make the dime they need. Selling to cover their mistakes, missteps. Greed is never a gift.

>> ctein “comment about giving “the custom in the dye transfer…

away… then, he sells… and, at last, he must give away. A needy greedy cycle. From the Herdy Gerdy Man

advice he didn’t take until many years after he couldn’t sell it.

advice, like old equipment, isn’t worth as much as the seller thinks

 I keep pretty good track of who is doing DT, because I still get inquiries.

  [ctein ] 2023…

[2023] From the large membership group, some collected remarks concerning volume of work, as well as film+developers in use for mask & separations.

  • [J1] 10-15 for clients. Delta 100.
  • [A2] 8 to 10, for myself. using expired Pan Masking. LPD4 in D-8, and Kodalith A&B. DK-50 1:3 3min at 78F rotary processor.
  • [R3] T-Max 100 & HC-110.

Meanwhile, back in the fifties: ads for labs, and a new film, a new style of emulsion. All these are gone; Kodak won, for awhile. And along came Fuji, who seemed, for awhile, to be the winner. An along came the worldwide HealtQuake. Fuji has moved to that great big ocean. Kodak coats 35mm for the masses, returning to their origin story. We push film; you push buttons.

Dye Transfer Materials price list.


A group can’t live if it can’t get passed its origins. That is why OIC began. They are the largest group engaged in making DT/IP prints.

[there will be more posted. this post will grow]

\\ updated post on dye transfer paper[apr 2024] summary: don’t buy paper unless you have all other items, even chems. If you must make conditioner, why not also make mordant, which means you can use fixed out BW paper from Foma, Ilford, or … old eBay.

One Picture More

Making across picture manners. consider this a continuation of my recent “Picture Post” .. the images in that, with this additional, are from the same situation, bounded by the same initial consideration. My prompt was the same. In that PP, I consider only the first points of making a picture. Often, that is enough. The first place is the last place.

Subjects have powers — these come from their prior treatment, by the naive consumer, the amateur producer and the needs of the driven “by any other means.”

conceptual work has no shadow; is without dimension.

These are two variations on simple structural relations. This [oct22,23] is a first rendering. Rather than make added posts, I will add to this post.

[this method has become my revised mode of postings … add to existing. ]

I won’t be writing about the “how” they are done… I am reminded of a conversation with John Orentlicher: my position on answering didn’t go well for my time at EXS. [To John Orentlicher ( or liquor) because it makes it more powerful to me and I have no interest in translating them; spending my life as a translator of rather than an author of. My first react comment to him was: That’s a question I’d expect of a student, not the head of the department. — I didn’t make tenure track… and so it goes.]

Added Monday Oct 24–> heading along the edges