overnight: 4.17.24

overnights are collected strips of paper. from blackboards around the house. notes to self.

what girls know:WGK
read the funkin label:RTFL
. . .
because people can't clean negatives--
rats
cats
bobcats
--rinse, repeat...until empty. the shampoo method

Mouse urine contains Lepto*[various] — consider cleaning with a C41(stablizer) final rinse, such as from Bellini or… checking Freestyle found two inexpensive vendors: Bellini and Cinestill.

  • hexamine (CAS 100-97-0) & photoflo (contains ethylene glycol)
  • 1,2-benzisothiazolin-3-one (CAS 2634-33-5) & diethylene glycol CAS 111-46-6

I would try the Bellini. Following that onto the web gets me to a list of darkroom vendors carrying their products.

Bellini Vendors… Spring 2024

Richard Avedon rotated into my notes, so, here:

  • Camera in studio: Sinar P1; Deardorff in field
  • 360mm Lenses. either a 360 mm f/6.8 Schneider Symmar-S or a 360 mm f/6.3 Fujinon-W . Prices just now at between $500 and $700.

I’ve written about Ciba..patents[US 2,322,084] and formulas/ Maybe I will update them[cibachrome. sunsetters, hikers and weekend walkers]. Also, I have finished tones and toning.

sidenote: Laser or LED exposures can overlap slightly as they scan. This causes an effect similar to pre-flashing paper. THIS IS TERMED OVERSCAN. emulsion makers have altered their coatings to account /correct for this.

sidenote: silver step tablets don’t give same results as dye step tablets of same step sizes and ranges. They differ in the high densities. There is a term for this also.

Dye Transfer Once Was

2001: Dye Transfer has become a lost process. Something talked about, mostly by those who never made one.

>> Apr 19, 2001 –Anyone out there interested in a Durst 8×10 with all the extra’s for Dye Transfer? Carriers, Condit stuff, vacuum easel, 403 color head and more.
>> Jan 16, 2002 All my stuff has been sitting … anyone want anything? Rollers, granite tables, trays ???
2 rolls 10 feet by 40 inch Kodak F paper. about 100 sheets Surface F 20×24
about 18 gallons Cyan, Magenta, Yellow dyes.
All for free, just make it easy for me to ship. I’d like to able to drop at
Mail Boxes Etc. and have you pay for shipping.

Then, there are those that make the dime they need. Selling to cover their mistakes, missteps. Greed is never a gift.

>> ctein “comment about giving “the custom in the dye transfer…

away… then, he sells… and, at last, he must give away. A needy greedy cycle. From the Herdy Gerdy Man

advice he didn’t take until many years after he couldn’t sell it.

advice, like old equipment, isn’t worth as much as the seller thinks

 I keep pretty good track of who is doing DT, because I still get inquiries.

  [ctein ] 2023…

[2023] From the large membership group, some collected remarks concerning volume of work, as well as film+developers in use for mask & separations.

  • [J1] 10-15 for clients. Delta 100.
  • [A2] 8 to 10, for myself. using expired Pan Masking. LPD4 in D-8, and Kodalith A&B. DK-50 1:3 3min at 78F rotary processor.
  • [R3] T-Max 100 & HC-110.

Meanwhile, back in the fifties: ads for labs, and a new film, a new style of emulsion. All these are gone; Kodak won, for awhile. And along came Fuji, who seemed, for awhile, to be the winner. An along came the worldwide HealtQuake. Fuji has moved to that great big ocean. Kodak coats 35mm for the masses, returning to their origin story. We push film; you push buttons.

Dye Transfer Materials price list.


A group can’t live if it can’t get passed its origins. That is why OIC began. They are the largest group engaged in making DT/IP prints.

[there will be more posted. this post will grow]

\\ updated post on dye transfer paper[apr 2024] summary: don’t buy paper unless you have all other items, even chems. If you must make conditioner, why not also make mordant, which means you can use fixed out BW paper from Foma, Ilford, or … old eBay.