if someone’s principle is precision of procedure

then they should be able to provide clear, precise directions for that process.

further, they should be able to report the end point of their own research results — this would be their starting point, and could easily be provided to you as a starting point for your work.

all doable without bragging or fear based bias.

it should be easy to report what their filters, factors, exposures, developments are for their primary film system.

If they are also using this as an intermediate they should also be able to pass along the suceeding stages/steps..

why do they put so much effort into the reasons why not? what they tell you, they have told themself — maybe why they’ve not gotten far — perhaps they’re afraid you will get further faster than they did.

If they can/do tell you why not, why not tell you what and how they do it.

Reminder:

exposure balancing with neutral density filters rather than shutter and aperture.

2n15 will be at SPEnational – you could be shown the jigs and methods of calibrating exposure, development, color correction quite quickly, without the chest pounding and bragging about imagined accomplishments

2n15 Rule

if you can’t engage beyond technical you can’t get into OIC, or you are dropped

  • no more than 15minutes on process, technical
  • no more than 2 technical questions

Failure Of Process: dye transfer

Dye transfer group has been given a jolt. Yahoo shuting off file system groups has been a shake to some of the followers of this long dropped Kodak product: ‘dye transer’

To provide continued discussion, and in hopes of a survivor, someone has transferred the remaining membership to groups.io.

it will fail, again–

not because he isn’t sincere, but because he isn’t dedicated.

Jim was sincere, and dedicated to the research portion. A technical mastery. He couldn’t keep the group active because most of the members are mere readers; riders on the bus. They never drove– never made dyes.

The dye transfer product was taken on by commercial interests, but it always fails on commercial goals.

it hasn’t been succesful in 3 different companies. It was never a commercial success, even though it made many successful.

those who will do the process are tempted by technical wizardry, but they fail to understand the meaning of magic. They are always after another wand.

you must be driven by internals strong enough to get you over the externals.

what are you prepared to give up, sacrifice, surrender?

so, what do I mean by “failure?” — will the group fail to .. what?

talking about dye transfer doesn’t revive it. talk is a replacement, and an opportunity to brag about what hasn’t been done.

this group has already surrendered to the freezer–

a group that is necessary and useful is one of practitioners, which was provided during the big years of dye transfer. those making prints would gather to exchange imagery.

Pictures drive making — that is the method of keeping a process growing.