Dye Transfer Once Was

2001: Dye Transfer has become a lost process. Something talked about, mostly by those who never made one.

>> Apr 19, 2001 –Anyone out there interested in a Durst 8×10 with all the extra’s for Dye Transfer? Carriers, Condit stuff, vacuum easel, 403 color head and more.
>> Jan 16, 2002 All my stuff has been sitting … anyone want anything? Rollers, granite tables, trays ???
2 rolls 10 feet by 40 inch Kodak F paper. about 100 sheets Surface F 20×24
about 18 gallons Cyan, Magenta, Yellow dyes.
All for free, just make it easy for me to ship. I’d like to able to drop at
Mail Boxes Etc. and have you pay for shipping.

Then, there are those that make the dime they need. Selling to cover their mistakes, missteps. Greed is never a gift.

>> ctein “comment about giving “the custom in the dye transfer…

away… then, he sells… and, at last, he must give away. A needy greedy cycle. From the Herdy Gerdy Man

advice he didn’t take until many years after he couldn’t sell it.

advice, like old equipment, isn’t worth as much as the seller thinks

 I keep pretty good track of who is doing DT, because I still get inquiries.

  [ctein ] 2023…

[2023] From the large membership group, some collected remarks concerning volume of work, as well as film+developers in use for mask & separations.

  • [J1] 10-15 for clients. Delta 100.
  • [A2] 8 to 10, for myself. using expired Pan Masking. LPD4 in D-8, and Kodalith A&B. DK-50 1:3 3min at 78F rotary processor.
  • [R3] T-Max 100 & HC-110.

Meanwhile, back in the fifties: ads for labs, and a new film, a new style of emulsion. All these are gone; Kodak won, for awhile. And along came Fuji, who seemed, for awhile, to be the winner. An along came the worldwide HealtQuake. Fuji has moved to that great big ocean. Kodak coats 35mm for the masses, returning to their origin story. We push film; you push buttons.

Dye Transfer Materials price list.


A group can’t live if it can’t get passed its origins. That is why OIC began. They are the largest group engaged in making DT/IP prints.

[there will be more posted. this post will grow]

\\ updated post on dye transfer paper[apr 2024] summary: don’t buy paper unless you have all other items, even chems. If you must make conditioner, why not also make mordant, which means you can use fixed out BW paper from Foma, Ilford, or … old eBay.

song somewhere between singers

those well known. those somewhat, somewhere known.

Neither are they the authors. They didn’t originate the sound, the system, nor the platforms of engagement. They each share the same virtual space.

I know little of either of these two. The one, Miley Cyrus, I have heard of without ever hearing. A Youtube search for the song brought both these videos. After listening to several versions, the Miley Cyrus is a return listen. She remains on my Yawn list, but this video tempted me enough to seek other versions of her. So much for success. So much for my ability to pick a path to the top.

The cover singers are competent; even providing a believable reason for making the music. The difference is that difference raised often between those with ability, access, and ‘other.’

Covid lockdowns lowered the bar, increased access to music. Musicians played over the same channels; apparently, for the same rewards. Getting to play music for others. Most of the well known met my criteria for acceptance of their success.

The stage is only so big. Only some will ever stand in a stadium and fill it. I wish when they did, they did it with their music rather than their costume.

between singers is song.

overnight: Feb14,24

conversation aids or hinders. you grow when among those capable of growing.

undercolor is an old term, not born with photoshop.

washing prints isn’t a new thing either. Patents go back as far as 1917.

Congo Lens

Words in search of ideas. Happens to all … some suffer more. Both these examples come from high traffic, large influence sites.

The telltale sign of word paddler: adding meaningless words. Examples circled in red. Why does something have to be qualified with: “own,” “true,” “actually,” “simply?” These are weasel words

Filling time is something we all do. We seem to do it as we have less time remaining. Those who didn’t make it as far as they wanted, are those making a past more valuable now than it was then. Their past expands to fill the present. Bad examples are what they preserve — the best they did. I don’t know, although I want to avoid them, I can’t. They remain the toothache of aging. I use “aging” as placeholder for a wordphrase I haven’t coined.

On to the wide field Ektar… ask the question in the better place gets: M. Reiss, Kodak patent. Follow up that search takes you into the Kodak patents on “objectives,” and coatings of lenses. This is meant to suggest you take an alternate path to learning. The internet isn’t the problem; the gossip counter is a hindrance meant to use up the last of their time.

An alternate world

Which horse do you ride?

Instead of reading the MikeJ’s, try something like the following about Richard Benson:

another way of teaching. This one produces a world of teachers and makers of art — about Richard Benson[November 8, 1943 – June 22, 2017 ] by Matthew Monteith [1974- ]

That might get you into a more understanding relationship with your work and the world of that work.