Category: the fora

all that stuff people say online

How Many Pages Does It Take

Posted on Posted in babl, fauxtons, morning wood, the fora, the meta2 Comments

to answer the hobbyists rudimentary question:

“Can anyone give me the times to develope(sic) FB paper in Ilford Multigrade paper developer. Ilford Ilfostop and Ilford rapid fixer? Thank you!”

in the land of time and temperature, it helps to be able to take the temperature of the room.

The direct answer is: https://www.ilfordphoto.com/amfile/file/download/file/1828/product/709/

Multigrade Paper Developer diluted 1+92 minutes1.5 to 3 min useable range
Multigrade Paper Developer diluted 1+143 minutes2 to 5 minutes range
Ilford Stop bath 1+1910 secondsup to 30 seconds
Ilford Rapid Fixer 1+41 minuteup to 5 minutes
absolute beginnings for Ilford Chemistry

… after more than 300 posts in the topic, it continues. Although, they no longer even try to answer the question, instead they answer each other — address each other as adversaries in a game of King of the Mountain. Among some, it seems they are playing Liars Dice, a popular game among the barstool photographers.

The simpler the question, the longer, more convoluted the answer. After enough time, we get into our deeper selfishness — pull out our basics.

how many old timers does it take to kill a thread.

Wiley is always throwing someone out of the store: Truitt and White.

Sadly, Mr. Bill gives credit to the vainglorious, and in doing so, takes it from himself. I wonder where he worked that he managed their color systems and is unable to see the errors Wiley makes.

The large portrait chains were called Kidnappers, since they offered free, or loss leader photos, then charged increasing amounts for reprints. The largest of the chain studios was Olan Mills, doing $475million (est) in 1993. Other studios: Varden, CPI in Sears, PCA in K-Marts, American Studios in WalMarts. Approximately $5B business in portraits in the US.

How Much Wood …

Posted on Posted in overnight notes, the fora, the meta

does it take for an expert to hold your attention.

When you overhear someone on a riddle-me- this, advice for the lost hobbyist forum, how much salt does it take to turn bullshit into stew.

A question was asked about contrast reduction masking making for RA-4 color negatives. They were told that their first thoughts were flawed. They were told this by someone that many, even the mods, consider an expert among them. How did he become that expert. Who gave him that mantle. Simple: there and them. They need to be expert; they satisfy this by believing in each others expertise.

Sometimes, some give very good, well reasoned answers — even correct ones. By correct I mean I would be able to get that to work as stated.

the person did what they should have done — try it.

it worked better than the Forumatti said was possible.

// hc 110, 1995 .. diluted for how many efforts. How much film as masks could someone run using a bottle of HC-110? I leave it as an exercise with these notes:

  • masks are best run singly in trays — one-shot
  • 250 ml solution per mask
  • HC-110 is exhausted at 5ml per 8×10 sheet of Kodak film
  • mask making is at great dilution — D or F

Adage from commercial labs: Mix for 4, use 3 .

The adage means use more developer than you calculate needing; this assures even thorough development.

an expert using 25 year old bottle of concentrate– proof that it stores well — not proof of it being used much.

How many prints does an expert printer make? In this case, not many. His expertise certainly didn’t come from working with this material. Neither the HC-110 for masking, nor the Fujiflex printing.

What does the expert say it takes? How much film? (see: p2.)

rolls of Fujiflex are long enough to make 50 finish prints (30×40).

Making a print a month doesn’t make a productive printer — this is much like the low-use developer expert.

Not much film; not many prints — say hello to the modern, online, snobby hobby expert.