Buying Dye Transfers

The big sale is over. It was last fall: M. Johnson and Ctein held another going out of business sale. The inventory just keeps taking up space. After 5 years, it hasn’t gone down enough. And we need to flog something, so… Like Mad Man Muntz ( an original TV discount sales store) we go out of business until we pay off the electric bill.

Why does this matter to me? The same reason weeds in the garden do: what you feed grows; if it takes over the garden, there is no garden.

Why Buy Prints?

I buy art because it satisfies my expectations. It does this by challenging me; brings me to another set of expectations. The more the work feeds my work, the more likely I will buy. I do collect. I don’t invest.

should you buy because it is a dye transfer?

I ask myself: is it immediately useful, instructive, completing : will it continue to enrich me; provide more questions, motivations for my work.

Am I buying out of fear of missing out? If yes, then I’d skip it.

The Pitch

The pitch is the alert. The premise of the sale: act now, act fast, this is a limited offering, this is rare, this is worth much more than you will pay.

How many times do you go out of business .. for as many times as there are buyers at the gate.

  • the online adographer.
  • the ad before the ad.
  • a memo to announce the forthcoming memo
  • colonel blimp reporting
  • ctein being, blimpishly ctein..

Prestige of Process –

Self promoter who has become the big name by writing about. You are collecting a one time sale. There is no after life for this work.

The Ctein shelf: these are souvenirs. Souvenirs of someone else’s vacation trips.

Buying An Example

A mature artist has an after market. ctein doesn’t. His sales are to aficionados, so are of value only among themselves. They are scraps, examples. He isn’t placed in the conversation in any way other than that of the tech writer— a long way from meaning, but very close to standard commerce.

You Could Have Bought

During the month long sale what else could you have bought around that price ($700)?

How about — Barbara Morgan original print sold for $900; William Eggleston chromogenic sold for $790; Jerry Uelsmann sold for $1085.

These were auction prices with buyers premium.

However, Jim Marshal sold for 781 w/bp. A Steichen for Vanity Fair sold for $535 w/bp.

If you wanted it because it was a dye transfer, you could have bought a dye transfer off eBay for less than $150 — from proctor & gamble, reader’s digest, or similar publication art departments. You will even have a good example of commercial art retouching from decades past. You would have a reference document demonstrating why dye transfers were the mainstay of advertising — easy to retouch.

Failure Of Process: dye transfer

Dye transfer group has been given a jolt. Yahoo shuting off file system groups has been a shake to some of the followers of this long dropped Kodak product: ‘dye transer’

To provide continued discussion, and in hopes of a survivor, someone has transferred the remaining membership to groups.io.

it will fail, again–

not because he isn’t sincere, but because he isn’t dedicated.

Jim was sincere, and dedicated to the research portion. A technical mastery. He couldn’t keep the group active because most of the members are mere readers; riders on the bus. They never drove– never made dyes.

The dye transfer product was taken on by commercial interests, but it always fails on commercial goals.

it hasn’t been succesful in 3 different companies. It was never a commercial success, even though it made many successful.

those who will do the process are tempted by technical wizardry, but they fail to understand the meaning of magic. They are always after another wand.

you must be driven by internals strong enough to get you over the externals.

what are you prepared to give up, sacrifice, surrender?

so, what do I mean by “failure?” — will the group fail to .. what?

talking about dye transfer doesn’t revive it. talk is a replacement, and an opportunity to brag about what hasn’t been done.

this group has already surrendered to the freezer–

a group that is necessary and useful is one of practitioners, which was provided during the big years of dye transfer. those making prints would gather to exchange imagery.

Pictures drive making — that is the method of keeping a process growing.