Using TMax

Formulations change even without a branding change. This is done for reasons their maker knows. We can guess. If the item is intended, or is expected to serve the same utility, why introduce a New Name?

Super-XX and Kodak Pan Matrix film become one example

Super -XX1938 – 1955was the founding emulsion in speed and sensitization for Pan Matrix Film.
Super -XXafter 1955 became the film used for seps.1953 Kodak had moved to Safety Base
Pan Matrix 55111949dye washed out. see Defender process notes
Pan Matrix 51491957black didn’t wash out
Pan Matrix 4149(63 ->) the Matrix film most knewblackjet
Pan Matrix

open questions

The past can be used to provide answers for those open to reading.


TMAX, Super-XX, and Separation Negative 1 &2 were sold during dye transfer’s ending days.
tmax was not the replacement film… it just became so after Super-XX was dropped. After separation negative film (I and II) was dropped, TMax was the Kodak film that many experimented with. 
The Versamat also fell to the change in commercial photography world. The change had begun in the 70s, accelerating in the 80s. Retouching was the key to the kingdom.
With dye transfer’s passing, several lab films were not longer needed. 
They were replaced by the scanner.

this date (1985), the process was ending. 
These are list prices. Labs got discounts over 40%. Our discount may have been a secret kept from other labs. Nothing much else could be. Certainly nothing about the process. We hired from the same schools. Hired from each other. Some printers worked different shifts at different labs. 
I, for one, travelled among labs across country working on projects.

TMAX as the savior

One Film to rule the world.. often repeated — the repeat began with one person. Seemed reasonable. No one disputed it. Some out of ignorance, some, likely, out of politeness. In one case out of knowing better than to spend time making repeated corrections.

TMAX and Pan Masking film co-existed… TMAX was not the suggested fillm for masking.

Optical Printing… isn’t enlarger printing. At least it wasn’t. Notice the guidance for exposing duplication film. Use an optical printer, an enlarger, or a camera.

the great OPTICAL print.. sitting alongside the Enlarger and Camera.

Calling a photograph an OPTICAL seems like a call for help. A big word for something very common.

The optical printer has short enclosed separation between original and duplicate — or, negative and positive (print). An enlarger was also called ‘projection’ or ‘arial’ printing.

Optical is a code word of those who oppose this century’s vocabulary for inkjet printing.

Forum Follies

The take away is more than one, you say. What do forums do… they seem to wonder what they do well; paticularly after they’ve been running a long time. Even the simple questions lead to toxic shock.

Summary: You can’t talk about the meaning, nor the nature of photography. You also can’t see it on the internet, therefore, you are wasting your time and their bandwidth showing pictures on the web. Further, talking tech is pretty much wasted since you can’t tell what the pictures will look like. Even worse, you don’t know if the person offering their instruction is capable of anything other than web boasting. The circle seems complete. Actually, it seems like a spiral. Smaller and smaller.

So, you can offer to buy and sell. That, at least is about as far as we’ve gotten. Except, how do you trust in this circle. After all we can’t know if the words or the pictures of the items are correct either. Do we?

crits are tough. they do require shared language. not necessarily what can be brought from experience as an insurance inspector.

Note Mr Katz’s sig asserts his presence on the forum has been since 2008. Membership claims have meaning beyond the factoid they’d seem to have.

They hold desire, and need to belong. Why else would he return.

trust the print, if you have seen it.

web should display what print showed from trusted source

only way to know is to know ahead.

shades of communication theory and post-modern death

perhaps they are headed to a post-forum internet.

Which leads me to a wayback time. Laura Gilpin asked CCA to match a color litho that had been made of her “Rainbow” — it, of course couldn’t be done as a type-C. It would have been very difficult to do as a dye-transfer. One form doesn’t complete an image, nor does it make it less useful.

Gilpin: Rainbow. Amon Carter attempts to show the print. Greyscale on side provides uniform meter for those who try.

“The proof print we sent you of the rainbow more closely matches your original than the litho does.” [12/68]

Even her original wasn’t what she wanted after seeing what a lithographer could/had done with the image.