Words Words Words

approximate meaning. finding the way. crossing the divide. making a bridge

Two worlds. Two cultures. Everything changes. Everything stays the same.

Finding meaning and having the means to reveal that, to yourself and maybe others. Both the problem and the driver.

at first an observation. What prompts that. Is it a small nit, or does it take a large shaking abruption. Usually crossing currents provoke the most. Change in flows provide great energy, most is wasted, passes on without utility.

So this provoke began when a technician of graphs asks how else to describe what matters about an emulsion. Actually, he wants to complain about a description of a developer. XY people don’t grok PR people.

amateurs need guides; they await the ice-cream truck.

Such as: Fred Picker. https://bwbarlow.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/the-fred-picker-legacy.pdf

These are secondary sources; people I didn’t know, nor did I read until this century. I read them now only because I’m studying the failures of the forums. The staggering load carried by weekend workers. Members of bands that none will remember. These sales force folks sell sweets.

they tell you what you tell yourself: it’s the stuff that makes me better. at least, it’s the stuff i can talk about. like gossip by the fish fryer out at manlake lodge.

no girls says the sign . no words say the words

whether they’d like it based upon your likes…all things taste like chicken to a person of consensus taste

like a spoon in the knife drawer the amateur photographer is, of course, something else by weekday; like cross-dressers, their week sees them one way, their weekend another.

But, then again, my path crossed just now because I was looking for CVI materials. They were found in an archived Picker Newsletter.

Fine Art Photo Supply: FA-1027 is what snapped the string on this topic.

Anthony Giudice sold Fine Art Photo Supply to Photographer’s Formulary for personal reasons.

Fine Art Photo Supply is a new company in Rochester, NY. Much like the old Zone VI Studios, we are a company marketing photographic merchandise and we are photographers ourselves. I have been involved in photography since 1972 (just after I quit my high school basketball team!); and my wife Vicki, who handles the administrative end of the business, has done lots of color commercial photography: 2 books, and over a dozen magazine articles (including 4 covers).

And like most first time, low factor salesmen and entry managers, they move to the extreme. Selling too hard or too soft. They will pass just as all weekenders.

Description is always based upon something else. There is no qualitative, boundless, fully functioning explanation. Not in physics, not in math, certainly not in any developing growing human pursuit including photography, a very self absorbed drawing system.

The color of the silver developed image… what does it mean? We had more options in 1950, but we also had a much more limited vocabulary. Warm. Cold. Developer and paper names didn’t have any basis other than commercial convenience.

How about charts. They always look good. Like something from a math course blackboard.

We call them “characteristic curves” which has to make them readily useable., as well as being beyond just words. Right?

At last. A Table of values. We can put this to use, can’t we?

Yep. If we are using those developers and we have a good working time at 68F, then these provided percent changes to that time should produce the same resulting negative.

This if from 1950. Probably not as useful this year, even with those developers since you won’t be using the lovely films made back then. You can use Ansco 17, particularly if you are doing separations.

of course, just having the words well defined and in a table won’t make them useable, nor used.

this is for an inkjet pigment printer. Note that it does use a pigment — and it seems to get through those tiny jets just fine… this is from a decade ago technology. The dumbwaiters from the forums still think that size defines a colorant.

Purdy pictures certainly seem persuasive. Reading them does require more… picture language is always more demanding.

The colored area is an ICC profile of Dye Transfer colorspace. It is overlaid atop, so you can see how it is contained within, an inkjet pigment printer profile from 2013. A decade ago inkjet printers had wider color range than dye transfer.

Plus, that same inkjet printer calculates out at over 100 years life expectancy before visual difference in color.

Use words that you find useful. Simple enough. The finding is much less certain. Words in all its form make distinctions clear to those experienced in using them. Gaining your own experience; making your own dictionary is just a first necessary step, and the biggest difference between those who ride the hobby horse and those who ride a work horse.


Love is just a word until someone comes along and gives it meaning.


Paulo Coelho
pictures catch the eye; words the mind
words tell; pictures convince

sidebar: ORTHO LITHO. confused online photo sites, like love and online dating. Ortho means the response of the emulsion; litho is jargon for the original use of lithography — a high contrast, usually thin film. Ilford makes Ortho+ sheet film. Arista sells a lith film which seems refactored from the silk-screen industry. This latter, ortho-lith film is frequently what is being referenced by the onliners. Kodak’s Kodalith was the premier version of this film. It also came in types, one was panchromatic, so there used to be Pan-Litho film. So it was.

Chloride Papers

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Chloride papers are lower in sensitivity than are bromide papers, but they are faster to develop. Silver chloride papers usually are fully developed in 60-75 seconds, while typical bromide enlarging papers develop to the same level in 120-140 seconds.

Chloride papers are ‘contact’ speed. They are used under a bright light, not an enlarger, with a negative in contact with the paper. The final image size is the size of the negative, which, probably, means you are working with a large format film.

Current chloride papers are the revived Azo styled “Lodima” and the newly introduced Adox “Lupex.”

current chloride papersAdox announced Lupex with a very considerate offer of free shipping, so I bought a sample pack, and then a box of 8×10. I like the paper. The shipping from Germany to Texas takes 10 days — be patient. Lodima shipment takes only 4 days.

I have seen posts (apug) that Lupex is slower (not much) and warmer than Lodima. That isn’t what I see.

Lupex. Lodima Scan

Lupex v Lodima
Lupex & Lodima: 25 seconds exposure

both papers exposed to same light, for same time. Both papers were developed in the same developer at the same time. To compare color of emulsion, I’ve scanned the papers against a Kodak grey card.

Lupex Fomabrom Scan

Lupex compared to Fomabrom & Fomatone paper

Foma makes 2 papers which provide distinct differences between warm and neutral images. Lupex is closer to the Fomabrom 111.

Exposure Setup

contact light
Soft LED white light in darkroom

Exposure is set using a Gossen lightmeter in diffusion mode. The ASA is set to 320. The lamp is raised to a point where the EV is 10. With the lamp at that height, exposure is 25 seconds for the Stouffer TP 4×5 wedge.

Developer

I use different developers, depending upon the image requirement. Many current users follow the Amidol road (spell lodima).. my preferred formula is in my ‘formulary’ section; also Lupex responds well to variable contrast developers, even more so using the 2 tray method.

More recently, I’ve souped both in Lith developers — they each offer brilliant color ranges in both Fotospeed and Moersch developers. I will probably use Lupex and Moersch later for more than just verification and idea generation.

Notes: See Easy Amidol for developer notes

Resources for making emulsions:

https://www.processreversal.org/public/workshops/handmade_baltimore/HandmadeEmulsionResources.pdf

Kodak Publication AJ-12, “Making a Photographic Emulsion.” https://unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Emulsion/emulsion.html

EJ WAll

The Light Farm: http://thelightfarm.com/Map/ContactPaperDev/ContactPaperPart3.htm

1996, Kodak: Process for making high chloride tabular grain emulsion using multiple stream addition of iodide. Patent