Cost of Emulsion Printing/ 2022

Dated, just because, not because I will update this post. This was an impulse topic that has expanded to because of a recent youtube viewing.

Simple facts: assume you shoot 4×5 B&W film, and make 16×20 prints. What is one pass thru the process cost, excluding chemicals. Yep, a big exclusion. You can add your own chemical costs, right?

I used big search, two online stores were used; I just wrote the lowest and highest prices:

  • Film (4×5): 25 sheet at $1.60 per sheet. 100 sheet at $2.00 per sheet.
  • Paper RC (16×20): 10 sheet RC at $4.90 per sheet. 50 sheet RC at $5.60 per sheet
  • Paper FB (16×20): 10 sheet FB at $6.00 per sheet. 50 sheet FB at $7.00 per sheet

What surprised me was the quantity pricing; it isn’t cheaper buying more. That is because we see different brands offering different sizes. High quantity brands are also the more expensive brands.


Youtube. A source for much information. One person has matured greatly in their presentation – not so much in caliber or skill, but in information quality. They are polished, and have been for years. That’s why they have large following. Look and voice.

The following video seems remarkably useful. It is about film from a moderate technical vantage point. It should be, she is a spouse of Mirko (of Fotoimpex/Adox.)

Film Grain Types

Not my preference in demeanor, but it gets you there.


Additional notes: toward enlarged negatives

*first stage film:
-- delta 100 $215/ 100, fp4 $211/100
*second stage:
ULF, 
ortho+ $190/25 (8x10) or special order. limited options of time / sizes

ULF; ilford, fp4
OR Bergger
11x14 198 euro / 25
50.8cm x 10M euro 354
20" x 33'

ULF fp4 12x20 $559/25

2022 vendors(US):

--Badger Graphic Sales,
1225 Delanglade St.
Kaukana, WI 54130
Phone: 920-766-9332
Email: info@badgergraphic.com Web: www.badgergraphic.com
--Blue Moon Camera and Machine 8417 North Lombard Street Portland, Oregon 97203
Phone: 503.978.0333
Web: www.bluemooncamera.com
--Fotocare
41 W. 22nd. St.
New York, NY 10011 Phone: 212-741-2990 Web: www.fotocare.com
--Freestyle Photo & Imaging Supplies 12231 Florence Ave.
Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670
Phone: 800-292-6137
Email: info@freestylephoto.biz Web: www.freestylephoto.biz
--Glass Key Photo
1230 Sutter Street
San Francisco, CA 94109 Phone: 415-829-9946
Web: www.glasskeyphoto.com

--Hunt's Photo & Video
100 Main Street,
Melrose, MA 02176
Phone: 800-221-1830
Web: www.huntsphotoandvideo.com
--Central Camera
230 S Wabash Ave.,
Chicago, IL 60604
Phone: 312-427-5580
Email: don@centralcamera.com Web: www.centralcamera.com
--Don’s Used Photo Equipment 2731 Irving Blvd,
Dallas, TX 75207
Phone: 214-630-4062
Web: www.donsphotoequipment.com txtoga@mac.com
Facebook: Don’s Used Photo Equipment
--Midwest Photo
2887 Silver Drive, Columbus, OH 43211 Phone: 866-940-3686 Web: www.mpex.com
--The View Camera Store
9698 N 130th Street Scottsdale, Arizona 85259 USA Tel: (480) 767-7105 www.viewcamerastore.com

Contrast Masking: Real Question

“I want to make contrast masks from 6×7 [120 film] color. What film and developer should I use. I can’t afford 4×5 Tmax100”

First: don’t use 4×5 size film. Use 120 film, cut into 3 inch length.

Next: it must be panchromatic film to collect (mask) all the colors on your original without being a separated mask.

Do this:

Use Ilford PanF film. Ilford PQ Universal developer. Arrange the stack as illustrated. Set the enlarger as if you were making an 11×14 print using your suggested lens. Follow the start points indicted in the drawing.

The black paper underneath is more important than you may think. It controls reflected light and flare back toward the cover glass and lens.

PQ developer 1:20 for 3minutes continuous agitation 68degrees F.

Making Emulsions: Key Patents

Emulsion Making:  US 5132203

Photographic emulsions are disclosed comprised of radiation sensitive silver iodobromide grains, at least 50 percent of the total projected area of said silver iodobromide grains being accounted for by tabular grains exhibiting a mean tabularity of greater than 5, at least 10 percent of which are comprised of two opposed parallel major crystal faces, a host stratum having an iodide content of at least 4 mole percent, and laminar strata containing less than 2 mole percent iodide interposed between said host stratum and said opposed major crystal faces.The emulsions are characterized in that each of the laminar strata is comprised of a surface layer forming one of the major surfaces and having a thickness in the range of from 20 to 350 Å and a subsurface layer located immediately beneath and in contact with the surface layer containing a hexacoordination complex of a Group VIII period 4 or 5 metal and at least three cyanide ligands. InventorEric L. BellKenneth J. ReedMyra T. Olm // be sure to check the 27 ‘cited by’ items, particularly those by Kodak.

 Coating – US 2761791

THE METHOD OF SIMULTANEOUSLY APPLYING THIN COATINGS OF A PLURALITY OF COLLOIDAL MATERIALS ONTO A WEB SUPPORT IN DISTINCT LAYER RELATIONSHIP COMPRISING THE STEPS OF MAKING A SOLUTION OF EACH OF SAID COLLOIDAL MATERIALS, FORMING A COATING BEAD OF SAID SOLUTIONS IN BRIDGING RELATION BETWEEN THE SURFACE OF THE SUPPORT AND A STATIONARY COATING DEVICE SPACED TRANSVERSELY THEREFROM, SIMULTANEOUSLY FEEDING EACH OF SAID SOLUTIONS IN THE FORM OF A LAYER INTO SAID BEAD AND IN SUPERPOSED RELATION TO THE OTHER SOLUTIONS WHEREBY THE INDIVIDUAL LAYERS ARE MAINTAINED IN DISTINCT SUPERPOSED RELATION, AND CONTINUOUSLY MOVING THE SURFACE OF SAID SUPPORT ACROSS AND IN CONTACT WITH SAID BEAD SO THAT THE SURFACE OF THE SUPPORT ENGAGES ONE OF THE OUTERMOST OF THE SUPERPOSED LAYERS IN SAID BEAD AND SIMULTANEOUSLY PICKS UP ALL OF SAID LAYERS AND MOVES AWAY FROM THE BEAD WITH THE SOLUTIONS IN DISTINCT SUPERPOSED LAYERS. Inventor: Theodore A Russell 1953 // it was based upon patents held by Bell Labs. … see Ilford’s US2941898A for more.

Dopants in Films – US 5360712

A process is disclosed of preparing a radiation sensitive silver halide emulsion comprising reacting silver and halide ions in a dispersing medium in the presence of a metal hexacoordination or tetracoordination complex having at least one organic ligand containing a least one carbon-to-carbon bond, at least one carbon-to-hydrogen bond, or at least one carbon-to-nitrogen-to-hydrogen bond sequence and at least half of the metal coordination sites occupied by halide or pseudohalide ligands. The metal forming the complex is chosen from periods 4, 5 and 6 and groups 3 to 13 inclusive of the periodic table of elements. The incorporation of the transition metal ion dopant and at least one organic ligand into the cubic crystal lattice of the silver halide grains can be used to improve photographic performance. InventorMyra T. OlmWoodrow G. McDugleSherrill A. PuckettTraci Y. KuromotoRaymond S. EachusEric L. BellRobert D. Wilson 1993

note: follow the patent to: WO2013032827A1 classification: G03C7/3041 Materials with specific sensitometric characteristics, e.g. gamma, density

Color Films – US 5302499

A color photographic recording material is disclosed which contains tabular silver halide emulsion grains of specified dimensions in at least two color records to enable improved speed and sharpness. InventorJames P. MerrillLois A. BuitanoAllan F. SowinskiRichard P. Szajewski, 1992

Classifications

G03C7/3022 Materials with specific emulsion characteristics, e.g. thickness of the layers, silver content, shape of AgX grains