two sample young

image aspirations —
paths away from their origin.
corran makes water on rock pictures. where he started, he stayed., holmburgers: wanted to make original Klutes… he never did


destination was picture– one got there, the other did not. c wanted the standard picture of the forum he went to; chris didn’t. he started after a picture type; one doable with dye transfer. he got a major re-alignment — no longer doing pictures; gave up on dye transfer.


the pictures they wanted, working with another’s imagination, someone else’s process.

a mask– first mistake is to call it ‘correcting’
it is a piece of film atop another. it increases density, firstly.
they do not have to be silver, they can be colored, can be made of color film

what happens when you ‘print’ a c-41 neg onto a c-41 negative?
how will that ‘print’ look?

Finding Film Data

We are in times of out dated film — film from unknown storage — film without datasheets. So, to the netfora with a question; like the camera counter of last century, except, these people are retired accountants, roofers, support staffers. Few of them worked as photographers; fewer still kept their old notebooks, those collections of datasheets. Firms like Kodak produced massive stacks of data in the form of how-to guides, along with instructional books — not even mentioning the many datasheets inserted into countless boxes of film/paper.

So, to the Loud Forums with a question:

Kodak Copy Film

The answer is quick, intended to assist, but does it? How much help? Go somewhere else; look in a booklet you don’t have. Oh, and the obscure developers are wrong, but not really, they’re just flailing answers. The answer is online; in two archive books. And now here:

Kodak 4125 Copy Fillm

The exotic developer is HC-110 (Dil E). This film was used indoors, I used it at tungsten settings, EI:12. It was also used as a lab film, in darkroom using enlarger light. Read the guidance about exposure and control of highlights. That is why it could be used in a masking system, and in duplicate negative making, although, I used dupe negative film for that: made it a one-step process.

So, I could pass this info on to the Loud Forumists; why don’t I? I don’t have a login. They are boring people trapped and trapping others, like some vast herd stuck in bogs.

Darkroom Privileges

taking pride, and gaining privilege.

Working in the darkroom was necessary for most photographers in the 20th century. There were some who used it as relaxation; a place apart from others. It served as backdrop to many photographer’s conversation. Craft remain the common conversation topic; often the only thing photographers speak about, can speak about, or will permit as point of conversation is craft.

They don’t, oddly, engage in big definition of what they mean by ‘craft.’ — That being obvious. A big silent gestured “you know” being enough.

Honor, prestige for something in your life. Most people are printers, not printmakers. They do think they are the grand ones; those who have mastered the work. What they, the weekenders, committed workshopaholics don’t understand, or won’t say, is they are not the Sammallahti’s of the world. They make prints; this doesn’t make them printmakers. Not even the Sammallahti’s are printmakers.

Pentti Sammallahti (born 1950 in Helsinki)

“For [Sammallahti] making prints is part of his art. The frog peers from a silver-gelatine image taken from a black-and-white negative, one of his preferred techniques, but he experiments ceaselessly.”

  • The Russian Way.
  • Pentti Sammallahti.  Photographs by Pentti Sammallahti. Text by jukka Mallinen and Taneli Eskola. Musta taide/Finnfoto, Helsinki, 1996. 
  • Pentti Sammallahti. Photographs by Pentti Sammallahti. Blue Sky Gallery, Portland, 2001.
  • Pentti Sammallahti. Photographs by Pentti Sammallahti. Nazraeli Press, Tucson, 2002.
  • Archipelago. Finnish Landscapes. Photographs by Pentti Sammallahti. Helsinki, 2004.  
  • Photo Poche 103: Pentti Sammallahti  Photographs by Pentti Sammalahti. With an introduction by Gerard Mace. Actes SUD, Paris, 2005
  • Ici Au Loin. Photographs by Pentti Sammallahti. Actes Sud, 2012.
  • Here Far Away. Photographs by Pentti Sammallahti. Dewi Lewis Publishing, Manchester, 2012.
  • Des Oiseaux. Photographs by Pentti Sammallahti. Text by Guilhem Lesaffre. Editions Xavier Barral, Paris, 2018
  • Me Kaksi.  Photographs by Pentti Sammallahti. Atelier EXB, 2021.

Craft is certainly a part of any doing, making; it isn’t the only thing, just an early, and frequent thing. A point of conversation.


Art or Craft
easy to tell
when you look at a photograph, do you ask what lens was used?
-- you’re “craft”
If those are the key questions you ask after years, then you aren’t in the conversation about art.

craft is conservative
the hobby world is like the big store Hobby Lobby
conservative imagers

skill badges around the making of items for gift and sale

reduced range of variance (happens in all learning - *shops)

even across medium : watercolor, photography; the image modeled to judge ‘art level’ is siilar or same. rules applied to guide the selection of subject, topic treatment set out the parameters of skill exercised.
the feedback : learn do see is the same
the training corpus guides them.

craft poles
Arbus --- Porter
Arbus -- Adams

style, demeanor
mode of action, interaction within the world outside the frame
experience of world produces actions within the frame.

worst of singers makes a mannerism of song

art isn’t an exhibition of craft
I don’t shoot film because it is harder, slower, better, longer lasting... none of those things. I shoot film because I like the cameras and understand the process to a great depth with many thousand hours acquiring.
I prefer digital because of the greater flexibility, responsiveness and likely future growth. It also is much more amenable to direct, same process alterations.

photography, by 1890, had demonstrated that difficulty of task wasn’t the catalyst of art./

Art isn’t a craft fair, no matter what the camera salesman says.

craft online
not locate silver mine, or build corona discharge multi-slot coater

but log into a forum of unknowns and ask if they know what you don’t
ask where to buy something.

craft sets your limits; delimits your imitation range
craft can’t be hired?